A TDA Poker Rule I don’t Adhere to!!
- By Warren Karp
- Published 02/23/2008
- Poker
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As a Tournament Director
for worldwide poker events, it’s my job to see that all things
that occur during the event are fair to everyone. As a member of the Tournament
Directors Association (TDA) I usually adhere to the rules set forth in our
meetings, after all I’m part of the meetings and usually have a voice during
the affair.
That being said I also have
issues with some of the rules, one of which I’ll address here. Let’s start with
the “In the seat “rule.
This rule started way back
when and for a reason somewhat different then what it is today, although the
initial reason still remains partly true. In the early days before the rule
existed when a player was returning from a smoke break or a bathroom break they’d
enter the tournament room yelling ‘Don’t kill my hand, I’m here”. Well not only
were they NOT there, they ended up yelling at the dealer because the dealer
(concentrating on dealing his game) didn’t recognize the players voice coming
from the door and with 25 tables going who could blame him. So the First of 3
variations of the ‘rule” was set.
Variation #1 was “If you weren’t in your seat when it was your turn to ACT, you hand was dead”. At that point the dealer would reach over, take your hand and there was no more argument. This in effect stopped the guy who was yelling from the door. It also did other things, like players acting faster to make sure the players hand was dead, or the other extreme when a player’s friend was at the table, action was slowed down giving his friend a chance to return in time to play his hand. Either way it created the wrong message and more it created a way for cheaters to take a shot. This is where I stepped in and spoke to the TDA about a change.
I talked about the fact that
if we kill a hand when the last card hits the button or when
So as flies in the ointment
tend to fly, some of the poker tournament staffs took the rule literally which in
most cases that’s good, but not in this one. When a player stood up to tip a
waitress or to turn around their chair for a massage or to readjust their seat,
their hand was being killed by the dealer and agreed upon by the floor staff.
This was not and is not the purpose of the rule. I applaud those of you trying
to protect the rules, but a little common sense is needed. In the next meeting
of the TDA version number 3 was born.
In version number 3 you
need only to be “by your chair when the last card hits the button or when
So as with many TDA casinos
this is a rule I don’t adhere to. I’m still using version number 2 and I
announce it as such prior to every event that I run. Further, I advise my
dealing staff not to kill a hand when a poker player merely stands up to tip a
waitress or says hi to a friend without leaving the table to do so.
I hope that clears things
up on the “Last card to hit the button Rule”
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4 Responses to "A TDA Poker Rule I don’t Adhere to!!" 
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said this on 04 Mar 2008 11:59:08 AM AST
THE RULES CHANGE SO FAST THESE DAYS.. HOW CAN WE AS PLAYERS GET COMPLETE RULES AND ANY UPDATED OR NEW ONES.. RULE USED BY SOME OUTDATED..
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said this on 14 Oct 2008 4:01:34 AM AST
Thanks for speaking out and protecting the rights for us! As common poker players, we won’t complain if we are lost due to lack of skills. But we will definitely shout out our loudest fury if the rules are set to put us at a disadvantage.
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said this on 26 Jul 2009 6:13:42 PM AST
I run much smaller games than you, 'MD; - and under the the name "Dr Ruth", no less - and I couldn't agree with you more. Many players simply get up to stretch or ? and stay at their chair without penalty. However, walking back to table from smoke/bathroom break and yelling does not constitute a 'live' hand.
Thanks. Excellent article.
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